In this dynamic conversation with Dr. Perry Nickelston, author of Stop Chasing Pain, we explore why chronic pain isn’t always where you feel it—and why recovery requires more than just fixing body parts.
Dr. Perry shares his hard-earned wisdom: Pain is a request for change, not just a signal of damage.
True recovery starts by shifting how we move, how we perceive discomfort, and how we relate to our bodies. From getting back to the ground to stimulating the nervous system through novel sensory input, this interview reminds us that recovery isn’t about chasing pain—it’s about learning to listen differently.

